Comments on: Time to Panic: The Phils are in Serious Trouble http://isportacus.com/2009/07/02/time-to-panic-the-phils-are-in-serious-trouble/ Philadelphia Sports - More Than Just Booing Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:46:09 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Nate http://isportacus.com/2009/07/02/time-to-panic-the-phils-are-in-serious-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-876 Nate Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:50 +0000 http://isportacus.com/?p=2170#comment-876 Well, there's always next year. Well, there’s always next year.

]]> By: Johnny Goodtimes http://isportacus.com/2009/07/02/time-to-panic-the-phils-are-in-serious-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-875 Johnny Goodtimes Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:13:32 +0000 http://isportacus.com/?p=2170#comment-875 I do think that they will get hot at some point, simply because every team besides the Nationals does at some point every season. And once Ibanez returns, a middle of the lineup that includes Victorino, Werth, Utley, Howard, and Ibanez is going to cause some serious damage at some point in the season. These guys are all proven hitters (some may disagree on Victorino, but I really think he is) and will all get hot at some point. Sadly, however, I don't foresee Rollins, Hamels, and Lidge really improving. Will Bunch had a great twitter comment the other night that sums all this up nicely: Has there ever been a more depressing first place team? I do think that they will get hot at some point, simply because every team besides the Nationals does at some point every season. And once Ibanez returns, a middle of the lineup that includes Victorino, Werth, Utley, Howard, and Ibanez is going to cause some serious damage at some point in the season. These guys are all proven hitters (some may disagree on Victorino, but I really think he is) and will all get hot at some point. Sadly, however, I don’t foresee Rollins, Hamels, and Lidge really improving. Will Bunch had a great twitter comment the other night that sums all this up nicely: Has there ever been a more depressing first place team?

]]> By: BMT http://isportacus.com/2009/07/02/time-to-panic-the-phils-are-in-serious-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-874 BMT Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:22:17 +0000 http://isportacus.com/?p=2170#comment-874 Three things: one, the Phillies had a chance to put the Mets away while the entire team from NY was injured. By missing that opportunity, the Mets are going to start returning their injured players and should get better, making the division race a little tighter in the second half. Also, the Marlins and Braves are closing the gap. Two, what you say is exactly right: if the structure of the baseball playoffs shows us anything, it's that getting in is the great equalizer. With that said, thing three: nothing about a team that is playing like it is indicates that they'll get hot. They may, of course, but nothing in this season has indicated that they will. Three things: one, the Phillies had a chance to put the Mets away while the entire team from NY was injured. By missing that opportunity, the Mets are going to start returning their injured players and should get better, making the division race a little tighter in the second half. Also, the Marlins and Braves are closing the gap.
Two, what you say is exactly right: if the structure of the baseball playoffs shows us anything, it’s that getting in is the great equalizer.
With that said, thing three: nothing about a team that is playing like it is indicates that they’ll get hot. They may, of course, but nothing in this season has indicated that they will.

]]> By: tofoomeister http://isportacus.com/2009/07/02/time-to-panic-the-phils-are-in-serious-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-873 tofoomeister Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:01:15 +0000 http://isportacus.com/?p=2170#comment-873 BMT: Very few. But the only thing fans should be worried about right now is getting to the playoffs, not what will happen once we're there. Being a good regular season team doesn't equate to playoff victories (see: 2008 Angels) and being a bad one doesn't mean you'll lose provided you make it in (see: 2007 Rockies). We're still in first, and it's the beginning of July. Last year, we were 3.5 back in September. Why panic now? BMT: Very few. But the only thing fans should be worried about right now is getting to the playoffs, not what will happen once we’re there. Being a good regular season team doesn’t equate to playoff victories (see: 2008 Angels) and being a bad one doesn’t mean you’ll lose provided you make it in (see: 2007 Rockies).

We’re still in first, and it’s the beginning of July. Last year, we were 3.5 back in September. Why panic now?

]]> By: BMT http://isportacus.com/2009/07/02/time-to-panic-the-phils-are-in-serious-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-872 BMT Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:16:01 +0000 http://isportacus.com/?p=2170#comment-872 Yeah, but the problem with winning the World Series last year is that just winning the NL East isn't going to cut it this year. Really, how many Phils' fans are going to take enjoyment out of hoisting the NL East pennnant in such a shitty season for the division? That's where the panic comes in--it's no longer about a division title and this team looks wholly unfit to win a pennant, much less another World Championship. Yeah, but the problem with winning the World Series last year is that just winning the NL East isn’t going to cut it this year. Really, how many Phils’ fans are going to take enjoyment out of hoisting the NL East pennnant in such a shitty season for the division? That’s where the panic comes in–it’s no longer about a division title and this team looks wholly unfit to win a pennant, much less another World Championship.

]]> By: tofoomeister http://isportacus.com/2009/07/02/time-to-panic-the-phils-are-in-serious-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-871 tofoomeister Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:13:01 +0000 http://isportacus.com/?p=2170#comment-871 June was a bad month, it's true. Would you be surprised if I told you the Phils' record in June was 11-15? Only 4 games under .500? Every season the Phillies have a month like this. Usually, it's in April. This year, it's June. As for the rest of the division's records in June: Marlins 17-11 Mets 9-18 Braves 11-15 Nationals...WTF cares So the Marlins have a good month, the Phils have a forgettable month, and <i>the Phils are still in first</i>. Not time to panic yet. June was a bad month, it’s true. Would you be surprised if I told you the Phils’ record in June was 11-15? Only 4 games under .500?

Every season the Phillies have a month like this. Usually, it’s in April. This year, it’s June.

As for the rest of the division’s records in June:
Marlins 17-11
Mets 9-18
Braves 11-15
Nationals…WTF cares

So the Marlins have a good month, the Phils have a forgettable month, and the Phils are still in first. Not time to panic yet.

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